Brown Large (Over 16" H) Mantel & Tabletop Clocks

A distinctive, metal mantel clock in the shape of a vintage gramophone. This is the perfect gift for someone with an interest in vintage pieces and quirky items for the home. This statement clock takes the form of a vintage gramophone and would look great in a home office or on a mantelpiece. The front of the piece doubles as an easy-to-read clock face, with a Roman numeral dial and black spade hands. The ultra-precise quartz movement requires a 1 x AA battery.

What a wonderful surprise as the stunning clock is larger than I expected. So pleased see photo you can purchase with confidence.. Lynne. Willen Milton Keynes, GB. Fri Mar 06 2026

The Coach Light Table Clock combines elegance and functionality in a compact tabletop design. Featuring precise numerical metal quartz movement, this clock ensures accurate timekeeping while adding a sophisticated touch to any space. Its bronze finish paired with sparkling crystal accents creates a luxurious aesthetic, making it a standout decorative piece for your living room, office, or bedside table. Our Coach Light Table Clock is designed to blend style and practicality effortlessly. Lightweight and easy to place, it complements modern or classic interiors, while the crystal detailing reflects light beautifully, enhancing your décor. Perfect for gifting or personal use, this clock not only shows the time but also elevates the visual appeal of your home or workspace. 𝐕𝐈𝐍𝐓𝐀𝐆𝐄 𝐈𝐍𝐃𝐔𝐒𝐓𝐑𝐈𝐀𝐋 𝐃𝐄𝐒𝐈𝐆𝐍: The Large 29 cm Metal Vintage Miners Industrial Mantel Clock features a unique pump shape and multicoloured finish, adding a nostalgic retro vibe to any room. It’s the perfect statement piece for a porch, bathroom, kitchen, or living room. 𝐋𝐀𝐑𝐆𝐄 𝐒𝐈𝐙𝐄 𝐅𝐎𝐑 𝐕𝐈𝐒𝐔𝐀𝐋 𝐈𝐌𝐏𝐀𝐂𝐓: Our Large 29 cm Metal Vintage Miners Industrial Mantel Clock makes a bold impression with its striking size, creating an eye-catching centerpiece for any space. It enhances the aesthetic of your room while being both functional and stylish. 𝐀𝐂𝐂𝐔𝐑𝐀𝐓𝐄 𝐓𝐈𝐌𝐄𝐊𝐄𝐄𝐏𝐈𝐍𝐆: This product operates on battery power with quartz movement, ensuring reliable and precise timekeeping. You can enjoy a smooth and accurate experience without worrying about the clock losing track of time, perfect for everyday use. 𝐕𝐄𝐑𝐒𝐀𝐓𝐈𝐋𝐄 𝐇𝐎𝐌𝐄 𝐃𝐄𝐂𝐎𝐑: The Large 29 cm Metal Vintage Miners Industrial Mantel Clock is suitable for a variety of spaces. Whether you're looking to elevate your living room, kitchen, or even bathroom, its unique vintage design will complement your home décor with ease. 𝐃𝐔𝐑𝐀𝐁𝐋𝐄 𝐀𝐍𝐃 𝐄𝐀𝐒𝐘 𝐓𝐎 𝐌𝐀𝐈𝐍𝐓𝐀𝐈𝐍: This mantel clock’s metal construction ensures durability, while the battery-operated feature makes it simple to install and maintain. No need for complex wiring or frequent upkeep, making it a hassle-free addition to your space.

Stylish and decent quality. Anonymous. Sun Apr 05 2026

This product is a classic mantel clock has a solid oak case. The dial has elegant roman numerals with black hands. A quiet sweep second-hand makes it an ideal mantel clock.

Good looking wooden clock, but it loses a couple of minutes a day?. Mary. Inverness, Ross-shire,, GB. Sat Dec 20 2025

I love it! The hourly charms are a bit loud though even on the lowest setting. Anonymous. Londonderry, GB. Fri Aug 28 2020

This solid wood clock, powered by a quartz movement, brings a classic touch to your home. The design seamlessly blends with any decor, making it perfect for a mantel, shelf or bedside. Enjoy the quiet and simple elegance of this timeless piece.

Item delivered looked exactly like what was advertised.. Anonymous. Fri Nov 29 2024

Lovely deco looking clock, very nice shape and keeps time well. Do find myself squinting at it from the couch though, to be sure what time it is, as the open workings design can make it difficult to see the hands.. Shelley. Dereham, GB. Thu Dec 22 2022

This is a barrel-shaped wooden mantel clock with a walnut effect finish. This stylish rounded mantel clock has a beautifully ornate design that makes for an attractive ornament in any room. Complete with gold finish bezel, serpentine hands, aluminium Arabic dial and a highly accurate quartz movement. The mantel clock has Westminster chimes to make for the perfect addition to the home. Requires 3 x AA batteries (not included).

It’s a lovely clock . I have wanted one for ages. Diane. GB. Tue Oct 28 2025

Watch the time fly by with this stunning mantel clock

Howard Miller was founded in 1926 and is still family-owned in its third generation, Howard Miller is the world’s leading clock company and a respected brand name in fine specialty furnishings such as curio cabinets, wine & bar furnishings, custom storage cabinets, and SmartMoves® adjustable height desks. Add a touch of understated charm and elegance to your living space with this wooden mantel clock. With its clean lines and straightforward design, it evokes a sense of time-honored simplicity. The reliable silhouette allows it to fit beautifully into any space. Perch it on the mantel or elevate your home office with its presence. Either way, it brings a touch of understated beauty to the home. The Windsor Cherry hue lends this bracket-style clock a sense of classic appeal. Set at the top is a dainty, decorative handle finished in brass, with a complementary bezel finished in polished brass and turned polished brass bun feet. The warm shade accents the rich hardwood beautifully, while an off-white dial provides a subtle contrast. Black Roman numerals and black hands stand out against the backdrop, as a convex glass shield provides protection.

When it arrived it was even more substantial and lovely than I expected.. Jana. Provo, UT. Mon May 03 2021

This arched mantel clock features decorative top moulding, a polished brass-finished bezel, and turned polished brass bun feet. An off-white dial under convex glass features black Arabic numerals and black hands.

Love the clock. Being able to adjust the volume of the chime is appreciated.. Charlotte. Hughesville, MD. Thu Aug 26 2021

Vintage clock front faces the shape Plastic features finish on select background complements your home decor.The clock is made of durable Plastic no rust, long-lasting performance.It is a battery Operated excellent timepiece easy to read and the time is beautiful and styled.It makes the best and cutest gift for friends and family because of the design.Perfect for decorating the table, Bedroom, living room, desk, office, cafe, and restaurant.

Founded in 1926 and still family-owned in its third generation, Howard Miller is the world’s leading clock company and a respected brand name in fine speciality furnishings such as curio cabinets, wine & bar furnishings, custom storage cabinets, and SmartMoves® adjustable height desks.

Looks stylish and minimalistic. I recommend.. Anonymous. Mon Sep 14 2026

A distinctive, metal mantel clock in the shape of a vintage bicycle, from HOMETIME®. This is the perfect gift for a bike enthusiast or someone who likes vintage pieces for the home. This statement clock takes the form of an old fashioned bicycle and would look great on a mantelpiece or in an office. The front wheel of the bike doubles as an easy to read clock face, with an arabic dial and black spade hands. It requires one AA battery for use.

Howard Miller was founded in 1926 and is still family-owned in its third generation, Howard Miller is the world’s leading clock company and a respected brand name in fine speciality furnishings such as curio cabinets, wine & bar furnishings, custom storage cabinets, and SmartMoves® adjustable height desks. The Berkley Table Clock is made of a high-gloss walnut piano finish with a wood burl pattern on the front and back to complement your home decor. The clock’s movement makes a soft ticking noise without the use of chimes for a quieter environment. This indoor modern clock is created to last. It has a sturdy frame to relieve stress in a busy household. With ebony black sides and base and button feet, this clock can be displayed in your kitchen, office, bedroom, living room, mantel, and more. The bracket design with a polished-brass handle is a home essential. Easily tell time with black Roman numerals and hands, brass second hand, a polished brass-tone waterfall bezel, and glass crystal to stand out over an off-white dial. The traditional Roman numerals feature IIII instead of IV.

I BOUGHT THIS FOR MY C.P.A. WHO IS RETIREING SOON. IT IS A BEAUTIFUL CLOCK.. Joyce. Aubrey, Texas. Fri Jan 28 2022

The Traditional Metal Quartz Movement Crystal Tabletop Clock in Cream brings timeless charm and warmth to your home. Designed as a stylish mantel clock, its antique finish adds character to shelves, mantelpieces and other display surfaces, while the industrial-style edge gives it a distinctive decorative appeal. Its freestanding design makes it easy to position wherever you want, creating an attractive focal point in living rooms, bedrooms, studies or other indoor spaces. Our Traditional Cream Metal Tabletop Clock is hand finished to provide a carefully crafted appearance and features a convenient battery-powered quartz movement, so there is no need for winding or cables. Its silent movement helps provide a peaceful environment without an audible ticking sound. Designed for indoor use only, this charming mantel clock combines practical timekeeping with decorative styling for a versatile addition to your interior. TIMELESS CHARM: The Traditional Metal Quartz Tabletop Clock features an antique-inspired finish and classic styling, adding warmth and character to your interior while creating an attractive focal point on a shelf or mantelpiece. QUARTZ MOVEMENT: Our product features a convenient quartz movement designed for reliable everyday timekeeping. Its battery-powered operation means there is no need to deal with winding or mains cables. SILENT MOVEMENT: This product features silent movement to help create a peaceful environment without the distracting ticking sound associated with some traditional clocks, making it ideal for relaxed indoor spaces. HAND FINISHED: The Traditional Cream Metal Tabletop Clock is hand finished to provide a carefully crafted appearance. Its antique-style finish enhances the decorative character and complements its industrial-inspired design. FREESTANDING INDOOR USE: Our product has a freestanding design for easy placement on shelves, mantelpieces, desks or other suitable surfaces. Designed for indoor use only, it offers flexible decorative display around the home.

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Absolutely love my new clock. We saw one in a cottage we stayed in earlier in the year & had to get one ourselves. Love it ❤️. Anonymous. Mon Nov 17 2025

The Pendulum Desk Clock - Black & Gold is a desk clock with a difference. A striking blend of modern minimalism and timeless charm. Its circular black face, gold hands and pendulum, with a sleek wooden frame, form a harmonious balance. Discover the range for more timepieces that harmonise form and function.

Our classical design wooden Desk Clocks brings the timeless elegance to your office desktop or bedside table. It's simply impossible not to love them! *Made of wood *Battery is included *Size: H25 cm W7.8 cm

A wooden arched mantel clock.

This really was just what I needed! Looks good on the mantle. Very pleased.. Julie. Woking, GB. Sat Jun 27 2026

Comfortingly cosy yet quietly sophisticated, our modern Mulberry collection invites an espresso brown to its suite of stunning wall clocks. The warm natural hue enhances the simple, open-faced, curvaceous style. Foiled numerals in a subtle soft champagne gold create a striking contrast, infusing the clock face with glamorous energy. Warm gold hands complete this stylish timepiece.

Looks good, very stylish. There arent any instructions included, which is confusing, but the clock easily pulls out of its setting to insert the battery alter the time.. Victoria. Newton-le-willows, GB. Sun Jan 21 2024

Like something out of a period drama, this masterfully designed analogue table clock is an enduring testimonial to the art of fine craftsmanship and attention to detail. Its focal point is its exquisite metal wire workmanship. The eye-catching curls and bends form elegant support for the striking centre dial. Coupled with warm wood accents, the result is a beautiful, old-world carriage-style alarm clock that adds character and prestige to any home or office. It stands on its own as a statement piece, yet also contributes historic charm to your existing design. Founded in 1926 and still family-owned in its third generation, Howard Miller is the world’s leading clock company and a respected brand name in fine speciality furnishings such as curio cabinets, wine and bar furnishings, custom storage cabinets, and SmartMoves® adjustable height desks.

We needed to replace a mantle clock in our media room and this one did the job, we are very happy with it.. Tia. Destin, FL. Sun Apr 17 2022

Accent your mantel, desk, or table with the Templeton wooden table clock. It has a visible skeleton movement for an eye-catching look, along with a felt bottom to protect your furniture. Founded in 1926 and still family-owned in its third generation, Howard Miller is the world’s leading clock company and a respected brand name in fine speciality furnishings such as curio cabinets, wine & bar furnishings, custom storage cabinets, and SmartMoves® adjustable height desks.

The clock was what we hoped for a well made & very atttractive mantel clock. The ordering, information flow, and final shipment were handled without incient. As required, we will shop here again.. Darlene. Green Bay, WI. Sat Feb 04 2017

The World Time Arch is a stunning brass table clock with a unique design feature — a world time zone map. This makes a wonderful piece for offices and home studies alike. Founded in 1926 and still family-owned in its third generation, Howard Miller is the world’s leading clock company and a respected brand name in fine speciality furnishings such as curio cabinets, wine & bar furnishings, custom storage cabinets, and SmartMoves® adjustable height desks.

This clock is really a good choice for a gift. I had ordered another clock which arrived damaged and Wayfair was so helpful in helping me choose this one. They shipped it right away and it arrived in time to wrap it for a gift. Lovely desk clock with time around the world.. Blanche. Highland Beach, FL. Mon Dec 19 2016

Embrace the simplicity of modern design with the Nextime Carl Small Table or Wall Clock. With its sleek circular frame and contrasting hands, time-keeping becomes a visually striking experience. The detachable feet mean the clock can also be used as a wall clock. The slim minimalistic design combines the classic wood with the industrial feeling of metal. This clock is silent and works on 1 AA battery (not included).

The charming and classic design of this clock adds elegance to any space. The medium-brown wooden case and aluminium dial complement any decor, and the glass displays a pendulum with a gleaming gold finish. Each quarter-hour you’ll hear the Westminster/Whittington chimes, whose volume is easily controlled to your preference and can be silenced during the night (between 11pm and 5:45am).

High quality and incredibly classy looking clock. Took seconds to set up and very accurate timekeeper. Chimes sound natural.. Peter. Great Linford Milton Keynes, GB. Sat Dec 25 2021

Elevate any space with the Porcelain & Cork Desk Clock, a stylish timepiece that combines minimalist design with natural materials. The sleek grey frame and neutral cork face offer a modern aesthetic, while bold black hands ensure easy time-telling. Crafted from smooth porcelain and genuine cork for a unique finish Compact size fits desks, shelves, or bedside tables Subtle design complements any interior style Explore more exceptional clocks in the range, perfect for treating yourself or finding a special gift for any occasion.

Myra Tabletop Clock finished in Yorkshire oak on select hardwoods and veneers. This arched Myra Tabletop Clock features a decorative top moulding, a polished brass-finished bezel and turned, polished brass bun feet. An off-white dial under convex glass features black Arabic numerals and black hands. Quartz, battery-operated, single-chime movement plays Westminster chimes on the hour and counts the hour.

This was an 80th birthday present for my husband. He was absolutely delighted with it. The quality of the craftsmanship is excellent. The chimes are very gentle and you can adjust the volume to your taste. All in all we are both very pleased with this purchase.. Diana. Glasgow, GB. Sat Feb 21 2026

This handsome clock features a floating dial, suspended in 3/8" glass. The majestic case and bevelled base are finished in High Gloss Rosewood Hall. White dial with black Roman numerals and hour markers, black hour and minute hands, silver second hand, and glass crystal is surrounded by a polished chrome-finished bezel. A full felt bottom protects your desk or tabletop. Quartz movement includes one AA battery.

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Enjoy the peace of a quiet environment with this silent, battery-powered clock. Its classic design effortlessly complements any space. Powered by a quartz movement, this time piece offers reliable and accurate timekeeping.

Sehr elegant und stilvoll. Uhrzeit ist sehr gut zu erkennen.. Katrin. Wandlitz, DE. Tue Apr 02 2024

I had a mantle clock which was 70 years old and one of the winding springs failed. It wasn't worth repairing because of its age. Then I found this mantle clock from a respected German manufacturer as a replacement. I am delighted with the clock. It looks solid and well made and the chiming mechanism is just delightful. I am pleased with my purchase.. Michael. Tue Jun 23 2026

Design clock faces the Napoleon mantel features finish on selecthard plastic complements your home decor.Made of durable plastic material has no rust, and has long-lasting performance.The clock is battery Operate excellent timepiece easy to read the time beautiful and styled.It makes the best and cutest gift for friends and family because of the design.Perfect for decorating the table, Bedroom, living room, desk, office, cafe, and restaurant.

Isobel. Leeds, GB. Mon Nov 03 2025

This tabletop clock has a wooden casing and is fitted with 14-day mechanical skeleton clockwork.

Its nice design manual key pendulum fire place mantel clock, just the right piece for our living room.. Heena. Stalybridge, GB. Thu Jan 24 2019

Tabletop Clock in piano finish with passing strike skeleton movement. The movement is plated and features a single bell strike every hour, also a separate second hand chapter ring above the 6 position of the dial.

Die Uhr ist für mich etwas zu groß, ich behalte si trotzdem.. Eugen. Fuldatal, DE. Mon Apr 27 2020

This ornate chiming mantel clock features a sculpted wrought-iron frame with a decorative cast crown, and antique warm grey finish, and sits on a Windsor Cherry finished base. Decorative moulding runs completely around the base.

This clock looks so beautiful sitting front and center on my shelf. I would highly recomend this to anyone thinking of buying.. Kenneth. Rush Springs, OK. Sat Dec 07 2019

This tabletop clock designed has an ultra-stylish and contemporary look. The cutting edge and aesthetical design makes it stand out from any traditional or digital analogue clock crowd and it certainly catches people's attention no matter where you put it, in your sitting room, office, kitchen or lounge. This tabletop clock can be placed on the table/shelf, or it can also be wall-mounted. It meets people's desire for adding an unusual and aesthetically pleasing objet d'art in their living or workspace, as well as telling the time in a very inspiring way. Plus, the second dot moves every second on the circle face and looks like it's magically dancing on this beautiful piece of design, which makes it even more inspiring and appealing. This tabletop clock still features an alarm and sound-activated functions, the same as our other click clocks. It can also be set to display permanently.

Super! Sein Geld wert!. Yvonne. Bessenbach, DE. Tue Jul 26 2022

Founded in 1926 and still family-owned in its third generation, Howard Miller is the world’s leading clock company and a respected brand name in fine speciality furnishings such as curio cabinets, wine & bar furnishings, custom storage cabinets, and SmartMoves® adjustable height desks. The Kensington Table Clock has a high-gloss Rosewood Hall finish base and a glass bracket case to protect the chrome-finished pillars to compliment your home decor. The clock’s movement makes a soft ticking noise without the use of chimes for a quieter environment. This indoor modern clock is created to last. It has a sturdy frame to relieve stress in a busy household. With brass-finished feet and accents, this clock can be displayed in your kitchen, office, bedroom, living room, mantel, and more. The classic design is an elegant home essential. Easily tell time with black Roman numerals and hands, brass second hand, a polished gold-tone bezel, silver, diamond-cut numeral ring to stand out over the brass-tone dial protected by an acrylic crystal.

Good price and quick delivery. Francene. Charlottesville, VA. Wed Aug 05 2015

Grace your home with the Candice wooden mantel clock. The cherry wood finish and brass details impart timeless elegance to this functional home accent piece. Founded in 1926 and still family-owned in its third generation, Howard Miller is the world’s leading clock company and a respected brand name in fine speciality furnishings such as curio cabinets, wine and bar furnishings, custom storage cabinets, and adjustable height desks.

Love the chimes. Has night shut off option, Would recommend to anyone lookng for a beautiful mantle clock. Sharon. Antioch, TN. Sun Feb 13 2022

This clock is 100% made in Germany.

Beautiful clock arrived in perfect condition looks amazing on my mantle piece love to hear the ticking it makes. Happy customer. Julie. Longwell Green Bristol, GB. Thu Jan 01 2026

Start your day effortlessly with the Wakie Qi Charging tooth Speaker Alarm Clock in , a sleek and functional bedside companion that combines a sunrise-inspired wake-up light, wireless charging, and high-quality audio in a minimalist design. Perfect for modern bedrooms, offices, or living spaces, Wakie blends practicality with elegance, keeping your essentials organised and your mornings calm and energised. Wakie’s sunrise-style wake-up light gently brightens your room, simulating light to help you wake refreshed. The integrated 15W Qi wireless charger powers compatible smartphones quickly and safely, removing the need for extra cables. Its built-in 3W speaker allows you to play music, soothing sounds, or alarms via tooth, while maintaining a clean, minimalist front with intuitive hidden back controls for a clutter-free look. The LED display is fully customisable, offering adjustable brightness or full-off mode for complete darkness at night. Constructed from 100% GRS-certified recycled plastic, Wakie combines eco-conscious design with durable, high-quality materials. Please note that Wakie requires a constant power connection for operation, using the included power cable and a recommended 20W adapter. Compact and stylish, measuring 160 x 80 x 45 mm, Wakie makes mornings easier and more enjoyable while keeping your bedside organised and efficient.

This tabletop clock features a solid, stylish casing and an 8-day 4/4 Westminster chime.

Excellent Table clock, really well made and worth the money, keeps the time accurately and the chimes are really nice .. John. Heathhall Dumfries, GB. Fri Feb 13 2026

A beautiful gold finish and wood effect arched Rhythm mantel clock with a rotating, silent pendulum, featuring crystals The clockface features an Arabic dial, black sword hands and a silver second hand. With the ultra-precise quartz movement, this clock will keep perfect time for a lifetime and with its timeless, luxurious design it will always provide a focal point. Requires and includes 2 x AA batteries. Rhythm embellished with crystals.

This tambour-styled mantel clock features a decorative inlay pattern of multiple hardwoods. An arched moulding crowns the case, while the base features a carved wood moulding that wraps around the front and sides of the clock. The off-white dial features black Arabic numerals, with black serpentine hour and minute hands. A polished brass-tone bezel, and convex glass crystal. Quartz, battery-operated, dual-chime movement plays full Westminster or Ave Maria chimes with strike on the hour, with an optional 4/4 chime feature which plays 1/4, 1/2, and 3/4 chimes accordingly. Volume control, automatic nighttime volume reduction option, and automatic nighttime chime shut-off option.

Beautiful mantle clock, although I found it a bit too large for my liking. It dominates a mantle, if that's what you're looking for.. Diane. Naperville, IL. Wed Jan 25 2017

The Anchor range of porthole instruments sit recessed into mahogany-coloured wooden boards and plinths. They feature cream faces with black hands and roman numerals, and 10cm cases which have been treated with a special tarnish free coating so that they do not require polishing. Quartz clock movements use 1x LR1 battery (not supplied). Barometers display pressure in millibars and inches. This unique desk instrument set combines clock, barometer, thermometer, hygrometer, and compass into a mahogany-effect cube that can be rotated for easy viewing. Measures 14x14x17cm

This rectangular Cameron II Mantel Clock is supported by a polished chrome plated metal-wrapped base and features a floating dial. The white dial with black bar hour markers and a minute track; black hour and minute hands; and polished chrome-finished bezel sits beneath the flat glass. Westminster chime and strike on the hour only; or Bim-Bam chimes on the hour only. Volume control and automatic nighttime chime shut-off option. Requires two C sized batteries (not included).

Finished in Windsor cherry on select hardwoods and veneers. The addition of two felt-lined jewellery drawers make this arch top clock a thoughtful and unique choice. Fluted columns and a polished-brass-tone bezel create a classic appeal. Off-white dial with black Roman numerals, black serpentine hands, and convex glass crystal. Quartz, battery-operated movement requires one AA sized battery (not included).

We have been looking for a nice clock for over 2 years and this one really fits the bill and does look so good too. We are really pleased with it. Mind you we still have no idea what to store in the drawers, maybe spare keys? Just love it. Priscilla. Dinas Powys, GB. Fri Jul 15 2022

Founded in 1926 and still family-owned in its third generation, Howard Miller is the world’s leading clock company and a respected brand name in fine speciality furnishings such as curio cabinets, wine & bar furnishings, custom storage cabinets, and SmartMoves® adjustable height desks. The Hadley mantel clock features an Oak Yorkshire finish on select hardwoods and rare elm burl veneers to complement your home decor. Place it above your fireplace in the living room for a classic decorative piece with beaded moulding on the base and carved side scrolls. This tambour clock has a sturdy frame to relieve stress in a busy household with durable bronze bushings. This timepiece has black Arabic numerals, black serpentine hands, and convex glass crystal to stand out over a lambs-wool dial. Easily tell time with the key-wound, single-chime movement that plays the Westminster chime to strike each hour. An industry-exclusive dual-ratchet winding arbour ensures safe movement winding. Use the chime silence option to place anywhere in the house.

A beautiful piece and was anxious to add it. Haven’t figured out yet how to have it chime but I’ll keep at it.. Paul E. Loganville, GA. Sun Dec 19 2021